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		<title>Comment on 40 Tips for running an Open Online Course or MOOC from those who have experienced them by MOOC as disruptive technology &#124; Learner Weblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have been many guides to the design of MOOCs, some of them based on surveys, like here 40-tips-for-running-an-open-online-course-or-mooc-from-those-who-have-experienced-them, and the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on 40 Tips for running an Open Online Course or MOOC from those who have experienced them by Amy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the perspective of a MOOC participant, I&#039;d say that if these rules were followed, MOOCing would be better all-round. Here are a few of my extra comments on specific points:

Number 14, &#039;Be clear about your objectives&#039; is particularly important and it fits with many of the other points, such as 26 &#039;Have a clear, stated reason for all synchronous sessions&#039;. There should be a clear reason for everything that is included in the course and the students should be able to clearly see why things are included and why they are doing it. 

In relation to that, I would go further than 31 &amp; 31 (about group work). I think informal group work should be encouraged but I think course designers should think long and hard about whether structured group work (for want of a better name) is really necessary. In my experience, students with similar interests or from similar locations flock together given the space and opportunity to do so. I took a Coursera MOOC, for example, found a group of people from or related to my country in the forum and we all helped each other out and offered support and ideas. There was no official group work in the course but there was lots of it going on because the space was there for it to happen.

Finally, about the dropout rate (Number 8), there are clearly going to be high-drop out rates when there are such a wide range of people doing low-stakes courses, and in many cases, there will be nothing the course organizers could have done to keep the students on the course. However--please forgive my idealistic teacher voice here--I still think that educators hold a responsibility to think about problems students might meet and to put measures in place to minimise them where possible. For example, if you have people signing up to your course from all over the world, you should probably ask yourself if you are doing enough to make the language accessible for that kind of audience. Are you adding subtitles/providing transcripts for all your video/audio material? Are you avoiding using idiomatic language that is often highly specific to a certain culture? Just like any regular course, you are more likely to keep your students if you have considered who is going to take it and have made efforts to make it as accessible as possible for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the perspective of a MOOC participant, I&#8217;d say that if these rules were followed, MOOCing would be better all-round. Here are a few of my extra comments on specific points:</p>
<p>Number 14, &#8216;Be clear about your objectives&#8217; is particularly important and it fits with many of the other points, such as 26 &#8216;Have a clear, stated reason for all synchronous sessions&#8217;. There should be a clear reason for everything that is included in the course and the students should be able to clearly see why things are included and why they are doing it. </p>
<p>In relation to that, I would go further than 31 &amp; 31 (about group work). I think informal group work should be encouraged but I think course designers should think long and hard about whether structured group work (for want of a better name) is really necessary. In my experience, students with similar interests or from similar locations flock together given the space and opportunity to do so. I took a Coursera MOOC, for example, found a group of people from or related to my country in the forum and we all helped each other out and offered support and ideas. There was no official group work in the course but there was lots of it going on because the space was there for it to happen.</p>
<p>Finally, about the dropout rate (Number 8), there are clearly going to be high-drop out rates when there are such a wide range of people doing low-stakes courses, and in many cases, there will be nothing the course organizers could have done to keep the students on the course. However&#8211;please forgive my idealistic teacher voice here&#8211;I still think that educators hold a responsibility to think about problems students might meet and to put measures in place to minimise them where possible. For example, if you have people signing up to your course from all over the world, you should probably ask yourself if you are doing enough to make the language accessible for that kind of audience. Are you adding subtitles/providing transcripts for all your video/audio material? Are you avoiding using idiomatic language that is often highly specific to a certain culture? Just like any regular course, you are more likely to keep your students if you have considered who is going to take it and have made efforts to make it as accessible as possible for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Lattice model for designing learning: defining the design problem space and guiding the design solutions by Lines of Desire, Learner Agency and The Fork in the Road. Week 2: Inquire (#oldsmooc) &#171; Proof of the Pudding</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lines of Desire, Learner Agency and The Fork in the Road. Week 2: Inquire (#oldsmooc) &#171; Proof of the Pudding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on 40 Tips for running an Open Online Course or MOOC from those who have experienced them by Marc Eisenstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Eisenstadt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon - these tips are great - should be required reading for course designers.  I would add this:

41. Life is full of tradeoffs (e.g. &#039;brilliant course&#039; vs &#039;shipping it soon&#039;): don&#039;t spend so long perfecting your approach to the previous 40 tips that you miss the boat. 

A great example of the &#039;do it now and see how it goes&#039; is personified by Prof Keith Devlin of Stanford who has created a very interesting Mathematics course on Coursera while actively blogging about his trials and tribulations at http://mooctalk.org/   He&#039;s no learning theorist, but that&#039;s precisely the point - his reflections are worth a lot, and he&#039;s having a large impact.  Sure, everyone is going to reinvent numerous wheels, but that makes for a great &#039;evolutionary stew&#039;!

FYI I don&#039;t really follow the OER/MOOC literature these days - this was a random &#039;dip in the water&#039; by a longtime/passionate OU evangelist, who has also enrolled in some Coursera courses (very enjoyable). 

Best wishes,

-Marc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8211; these tips are great &#8211; should be required reading for course designers.  I would add this:</p>
<p>41. Life is full of tradeoffs (e.g. &#8216;brilliant course&#8217; vs &#8216;shipping it soon&#8217;): don&#8217;t spend so long perfecting your approach to the previous 40 tips that you miss the boat. </p>
<p>A great example of the &#8216;do it now and see how it goes&#8217; is personified by Prof Keith Devlin of Stanford who has created a very interesting Mathematics course on Coursera while actively blogging about his trials and tribulations at <a href="http://mooctalk.org/" rel="nofollow">http://mooctalk.org/</a>   He&#8217;s no learning theorist, but that&#8217;s precisely the point &#8211; his reflections are worth a lot, and he&#8217;s having a large impact.  Sure, everyone is going to reinvent numerous wheels, but that makes for a great &#8216;evolutionary stew&#8217;!</p>
<p>FYI I don&#8217;t really follow the OER/MOOC literature these days &#8211; this was a random &#8216;dip in the water&#8217; by a longtime/passionate OU evangelist, who has also enrolled in some Coursera courses (very enjoyable). </p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>-Marc</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Preliminary findings from a series of staff surveys on perceptions, attitudes and practices of learning design&#8217; paper now available online by Valerie Bentinck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Bentinck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I am not surprised that there is a feeling that design is more complex, there has to be a shift in the concept of &#039;teaching models&#039; from teacher led to other more compatible models in which the student has to have more central invovlement. This is a very slow process in the actual field of teaching, as someone who learnt to teach in FE (where more student centred models had to be employed) and now moved to HE, I find that within both the OU and in a campus based University there is still very much a &#039;top down&#039; teacher led approach, which just does not seem to &#039;sit&#039; with technology and all the opportunities these pose. Change is sometimes slow....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am not surprised that there is a feeling that design is more complex, there has to be a shift in the concept of &#8216;teaching models&#8217; from teacher led to other more compatible models in which the student has to have more central invovlement. This is a very slow process in the actual field of teaching, as someone who learnt to teach in FE (where more student centred models had to be employed) and now moved to HE, I find that within both the OU and in a campus based University there is still very much a &#8216;top down&#8217; teacher led approach, which just does not seem to &#8216;sit&#8217; with technology and all the opportunities these pose. Change is sometimes slow&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Assessing the potential for adaptation and personalisation of teaching and learning by Hank Bowman (@BowmanZen)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Bowman (@BowmanZen)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s possible that the Moodle functionality will be available shortly through next generation, personal learning platforms that work inside any LMS including Moodle.  Adapt Courseware is building courses with optimal choice built in along with motivational support in a rich multimedia experience for the student.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible that the Moodle functionality will be available shortly through next generation, personal learning platforms that work inside any LMS including Moodle.  Adapt Courseware is building courses with optimal choice built in along with motivational support in a rich multimedia experience for the student.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Altruism and OER /OED: sharing, charity and the process of giving by Robert Farrow (@philosopher1978)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Farrow (@philosopher1978)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting stuff!  And I think I will write a full response on my own blog (http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/openminded/)over the next few days (time permitting).  In the meantime, you might be interested in the draft chapter I co-wrote for the forthcoming book &#039;Curb Your Enthusiasm &amp; Philosophy&#039;.  The stuff at the start is most relevant and the whole thing makes more sense if you know the TV show.  It&#039;s available at http://open.academia.edu/RobertFarrow/Papers/346754/Thats_a_Problem_its_not_a_Gift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff!  And I think I will write a full response on my own blog (<a href="http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/openminded/" rel="nofollow">http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/openminded/</a>)over the next few days (time permitting).  In the meantime, you might be interested in the draft chapter I co-wrote for the forthcoming book &#8216;Curb Your Enthusiasm &amp; Philosophy&#8217;.  The stuff at the start is most relevant and the whole thing makes more sense if you know the TV show.  It&#8217;s available at <a href="http://open.academia.edu/RobertFarrow/Papers/346754/Thats_a_Problem_its_not_a_Gift" rel="nofollow">http://open.academia.edu/RobertFarrow/Papers/346754/Thats_a_Problem_its_not_a_Gift</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Altruism and OER /OED: sharing, charity and the process of giving by Sheila MacNeill (@sheilmcn)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila MacNeill (@sheilmcn)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Simon

Really interesting take on motivations for sharing.  I think (in OER/academic fields anyway) we also need to do more to encourage and support the habit of sharing too, so that it becomes part of everyday practice.  I guess altruism and habits are pretty inter-twinned so I think explore some models as you suggest could be very valuable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon</p>
<p>Really interesting take on motivations for sharing.  I think (in OER/academic fields anyway) we also need to do more to encourage and support the habit of sharing too, so that it becomes part of everyday practice.  I guess altruism and habits are pretty inter-twinned so I think explore some models as you suggest could be very valuable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Altruism and OER /OED: sharing, charity and the process of giving by yishaym</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yishaym]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always get a bit uneasy around fluffy feel-good models of altruism. Yes, we do have an innate desire to share, but there should be a hard, rationale explanation for it. Otherwise, it just doesn&#039;t last. 
I think game-theoretic models could be useful here in understanding people&#039;s incentive structures, and how we can design social protocols to sustain open sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always get a bit uneasy around fluffy feel-good models of altruism. Yes, we do have an innate desire to share, but there should be a hard, rationale explanation for it. Otherwise, it just doesn&#8217;t last.<br />
I think game-theoretic models could be useful here in understanding people&#8217;s incentive structures, and how we can design social protocols to sustain open sharing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Lattice model for designing learning: defining the design problem space and guiding the design solutions by Reflections on Learning Design Process Models 1 &#171; Latestendeavour Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflections on Learning Design Process Models 1 &#171; Latestendeavour Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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